And the pricing seems way too high considering that.

What kind of depth you were hoping for?

Seems basically like a gpt prompt: &quot;When I speak, respond in the language that I speak in but provide me translations in (language)&quot;I was definitely hoping for more depth here.

Yeah, my interest was piqued by the title but that demo video torpedoed it... Which is such a bummer because language learning is a perfect use case for LLMs

The demo video was giving me motion sickness.
Usually language is about talking to communicate... This seems more of typing.

Title: ... Learn ANY language ....Reality: Supported languages: English, Tiếng Việt, Polski, Español, Français, Deutsch:-|

We do! We have a free tier if you want to try it out. This was our launch:
 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36973400">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36973400</a>Hope it helps with your Dutch :)

For what it&#x27;s worth, ChatGPT Plus can understand both written and spoken Dutch, and write or speak it back.

I&#x27;m curious how much effort goes into the management of these LLM backed language tools? I&#x27;m learning a less popular language (Dutch) and almost none of them support the it out of the box. Is this a marketing decision? What is the overhead to add support for a new language?

Don&#x27;t all languages boil down to these 6?&#x2F;s

I think concept-wise, it is a great idea. I saw some other examples in the GPTStore - e.g. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chat.openai.com&#x2F;g&#x2F;g-RR3RCyK8N-language-teacher-ms-smith" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chat.openai.com&#x2F;g&#x2F;g-RR3RCyK8N-language-teacher-ms-sm...</a>

For those interested in this, there are a lot on the app stores these days that integrate this a bit better, i.e ask what you want to talk about first, and then you communicate for a short time with the AI about the topic.

It is rather for people who knows some basics, but would like to improve their language. It is necessary to be able to chat at least at some basic level.

Questions for creator:Is this supposed to teach absolute beginners? Or do you assume some knowledge of the language already?Is it a comprehensive course, or should it be used as a supplement to a course?

&gt; But: if I can get thru that, and start to engage with (say) Italy at a deeper levelI was at a native+ level of English in high school according to an IELTS test I took for fun. During college my English improved further.When I moved to USA … ho boy the difference between fluent English and culturally fluent idiomatic English is surprisingly vast. Much hilarity, frustration, and subtle misunderstandings ensued. It’s like an uncanny valley when your language is so good you start being judged as a native who’s a little weird and unsettling.After 9 years of full immersion (I live here with nobody of my native language to speak with), you could say my English is near perfect. Hell I write and publish books in English! The next generation has started using new idioms I do not fully grok. What the hell is “based”?Basically feels impossible for to ever fully catch up. Language moves too fast and your cultural background will never be same as the natives.Edit: One super interesting aspect is that to speak fluent native English you have to do it wrong. Californians, for example, don’t use the plural contraction. You have to say “there’s many options” instead of “there are many options”. Otherwise you sound like a weirdo.

There needs to be a name for this phenomenon experienced by native English speakers abroad, who actually want to learn a foreign language.I knew my Japanese was getting decent, many years ago, when my Japanese coworkers started replying to my Japanese in Japanese, instead of replying to my broken Japanese with broken English.

Depends on the language and the reason to learn it. Right now its pretty discouraging. I pick up, say, enough Italian to get through a 2 week holiday, but all the people I interact with are under 40 and keen to practice their (excellent) English. English is so much the Common Tongue that I even hear the French and German visitors using it.But: if I can get thru that, and start to engage with (say) Italy at a deeper level, away from tourist activities, or starting to engage with their literature, then learning the language will have a huge payoff. It&#x27;s just a bit disheartening when you struggle to reach A2 or B1 but can&#x27;t use it in the country because everyone switches to English. I guess my accent needs more work than I thought...

From the perspective of a hunter gatherer, we already live in this future. Our skills have nothing to do with theirs. From their perspective we are phenomenally dumb because we couldn&#x27;t survive very long in the wild, and know very little of our natural surroundings.In fact you can argue natural pressures have stopped us from evolving. We don&#x27;t need our logical skills anymore to deduce the tracking and pathing of animals we hunt, or our memory to remember where the berries are.

We&#x27;re not worse at remembering numbers, there&#x27;s just no need for it so we don&#x27;t bother.

i think what people memorize has been made optional, but that people still memorize a lot. sure not phone mumbers, but the amount of lore they can recite from some fandom seems to be of similar depth

Sometimes I ask myself if WALLE is not that unrealistic of an dystopy, as we can already see that people are worse at remembering numbers in contrast to the time before smartphones, that save this information for you. Right now you can let ChatGPT do your homework without knowing anything about the subject. Where does this stop? Are we steering for a future where machines are doing everything for us and we will become dumber and dumber?

There’s always something lost in translation, no matter how good the translator is, and the less the languages are related the more is lost. AI translation won’t change the motivation for language learning that much. It’s more the translator profession that will suffer (and already suffers).

By that token, nobody needs math today because computers do it for us.

I agree that the importance of knowing another language will decrease but being fluent will still be better than having a translator in between.

Great point. I can imagine this could become a real thing: training AI&#x2F;LLMs in obscure languages in order to preserve them.

Because forcing people to speak the ruling class&#x27;s lingua franca has done so much good for the 500+ languages we already forced out of existence? If anything, finally having proper real-time translation would allow folks to keep speaking their native tongue instead of being forced to abandon it.Languages with global speaker bases will be fine, but languages with tiny speaker groups would highly benefit from having an alternative to &quot;stop speaking your own language and learn ours, or your government won&#x27;t talk to you&quot;.

I have a feeling that soon we will have models which will predict the future better than humans and then the humans will stop predicting it and we will lose all insights into how to predict the future. at least the models will not make mistakes. &#x2F;s

I have a feeling that soon we will stop learning new languages to communicate with others because real-time AI translation will be so good, and we&#x27;ll learn languages in a vacuum for intellectual amusement only, barely getting past the A2 level due to the lack of true human stimulation in the activity. This tool is certainly a step in that direction, and it strikes me as a great loss to humanity because we are losing our diversity. It just makes no sense to equalize all possible abilities over all human beings so we have nothing to offer each other.

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