JingOS: Linux Distro Inspired by the iPad

throwaway888abc | 435 points

A lot has already been said about them copying or borrowing or just getting their inspiration from Apple, so I'll skip that. Unless they fully opensource the code it is unlikely to get any traction. And if it is really based on Linux we're likely going to see UI and UX issues, An OS is more than just a some fancy icons and modded apps. The transitions that they show in the demo are not easy to achieve as in stability of the software. It looks very clean but unlike elementary OS, it doesn't feel authentic. I don't know what obsession people have with Apple but they aren't the only company getting designs and UX right. These avenues are unfortunately killing independent and new design ideas.

pratio | 3 years ago

I wonder if this is going to be the OS of choice for flea-market iPad counterfeits/knockoffs... the Files screen even says "On my Pad" in the shown screenshot. Everything looks close enough to be able to possibly fool an untrained eye.

tomc1985 | 3 years ago

Unfortunate name [0] :| or perhaps it was intended? Very clever then.

0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingoism

popcorncowboy | 3 years ago

This looks like a legal nightmare.

I mean there are all kinds of protections of visual thinks like e.g. design patents.

I would be highly surprised if this doesn't violate at least one or two apple hold still valid design patents or other protection mechanisms.

Because lets be honest design/visual wise it's less iPad/iOs inspired but a bland clone of the iOs design on iPad with some/many minor but in the grater picture irrelevant changes.

dathinab | 3 years ago

It looks so inspired that Apple legal might also be inspired.

Hamuko | 3 years ago

This is great work; absolutely something the Linux world needs.

Only I wish they would divert more from MacOS X / iPad OS in terms of colours and loose the reference to iPad in the marketing copy.

throwaway4good | 3 years ago

Awesome! Its exciting to see new applications of *nix OSes that are design-forward and targeted towards modern computing paradigms / platforms.

I’m a grumpy graybeard who likes Arch on my laptop and Debian on my server...but cosmetics and familiar visual vocab and adopting industry ux practices—these are undeniable obstacles that must be overcome before “the year of the Linux desktop “ :)

michaericalribo | 3 years ago

"Inspired by"? They've directly copied all kinds of UI.

Bud | 3 years ago

Also discussed here just 17 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25580608

bArray | 3 years ago

I am happy to see projects that make Linux look beter or more user friendly.

But to truly catch up with iPadOS one needs to recreate not just the UX but also powerful features that it comes with

* can the Photo app recognize faces? or landscapes ?

* can the Notes app do OCR on pictures and PDF’s?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25805137

* is there an iCloud like function that synchronizes in the background?

It is not just the UX that makes 70+ year olds be able to work with an iPad, it’s the whole package.

janandonly | 3 years ago

For Linux users, we look for credible source for something as important as Operating Systems. Usually from known entity or open source community. It would be great if you can clarify.

Also since it is just getting started, you would be better off not using iPad, Apple kind of words. Instead use neutral terms like Linux OS optimized for Tablets, before it is too late.

Also heavy influence of Apple Marketing on your preview video, it would serve you well if you have the actual working copy of the OS on a tablet shown as demo as well. Hope you are making that video as well.

hvaoc | 3 years ago

Looking at the launch video [0], this looks very professional done. Which company is behind this? I can't find any info on the site. Is this team related to Huawei?

0. https://youtu.be/3E0ADUIiFzA

NiekvdMaas | 3 years ago

> Available from Jan 31, 2021

So, is this going to be a paid for product? I am looking at what looks like is their GitHub page, and it's basically empty? https://github.com/JingOS-team

bArray | 3 years ago

Why do people put copyrighted words (like iPad) in their copy? Just called a tablet-style OS so Apple won't go after your ass.

samwestdev | 3 years ago

I'm both hopeful and dubious about this. Can't see this getting very far if it isn't open source, but it seems like something similar could scratch an itch I've had for a while (detailed below).

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I love using my iPad to consume content, but damn do I sometimes wish I could just use a real desktop on it. With some caveats, of course:

- Without needing an internet connection/AP - At least some kind touch support* (clicking, scrolling, gestures, etc.) - Consistent, dependable graphical fidelity/performance - Easily portable - Quick to instantiate - Clean-yet-functional UI*

I've tried some wireless AP/bridge setups on a Pi4 and VNCing into it via my iPad, but they've been not-so-satisfactory for a few of the reasons listed above. Haven't given up on it -still researching/fiddling around - but definitely the biggest hurdle is going to be the UI. Gotta find that balance between functionality, simplicity, and aesthetic - preferably out of the box. Not something Linux is particularly known for.

*i.e. simplified desktop/application UI so that I can do most everything using the touchscreen (in addition to the keyboard/mouse), but can still access the advanced functions, even if those specifically are only optimized for mouse/keyboard. Ideally I'd be able to show/hide functions arbitrarily in the simple mode based on if I do/don't use them. Tiled WM or similar for single-app or split-pane view mode.

txbuck | 3 years ago

“New Linux Distro” here just means a new graphical environment.

xwdv | 3 years ago

Apple isn’t going to like this. Good luck!

poutine | 3 years ago

Is the project developed publicly? Where is the git repository with sources (under a FLOSS license)?

someperson | 3 years ago

You realize elementary os exists right? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_OS

retpirato | 3 years ago

I found it amusing how on the one side we're being told is a full-fledged Linux under the hood, and on the other side they felt it was worth noting that it comes with a native calculator app.

dr_zoidberg | 3 years ago

I always thought, if a vendor ever wants to encroach into Apple's territory, literally all they have to do is the same formula: Commercially supported Unix operating system with a polished UI + hardware. If you want to approach the enterprise market, you need an excel and word clone. For the consumer market, a polished and solid (crash free) browser with GPU acceleration is probably the #1 feature.

Obviously not that simple in practice but what certainly _doesnt_ work is sexy hardware running the turd that is windows.

exabrial | 3 years ago

Looks pretty, but I'm curious why it is an entire distro instead of a desktop environment or theme. Any idea what it is based on?

paxys | 3 years ago

To be honest if it doesn't install and use flatpak/snap for apps, then I think its only a glorified desktop DE.

0dayz | 3 years ago

this is exactly what I was looking for. but something is suspiciously not visible in the demo video : the soft keyboard.

slim | 3 years ago

Is there any easy to setup Linux software for touch-screen keyboard and auto detecting rotations in 2 in 1 laptops?

yewenjie | 3 years ago

This reminds me of DeepinOS though it's intentions are a bit different. The obsession the Chinese people have with iOS is insane though from a UX/UI it seems justifiable given user demand on this front. Simple gets the job done.

It explains why for ex. Xiaomi themes it's mobile OS (MIUI) to appear more iOS-ish.

freebuju | 3 years ago

Perhaps a less phonetically terrible name?

modmans2nd | 3 years ago

Will it receive an "update" from the supreme leader some time next year?

chimen | 3 years ago

It must be fun writing an essay on a tablet. Do you think tablets will defeat laptops?

Or do most pad users have a physical keyboard for text entry?

I would be interested in the touchscreen keyboard detail here.

I have Gboard on Android, has this space matured?

footrot | 3 years ago

So if this is a good tablet design/UI, what is wrong with Gnome3?

footrot | 3 years ago

Why inspired by Apple?, why not make their own thing instead of a knockoff? They r talented individuals they can totally make their own thing

533474 | 3 years ago

From their discord, this is just more gongkai "loot open source/GPL and be closed source"-ware

duckfang | 3 years ago

Why did OP use a throwaway? The timing of this is a little strange, when considering it has a Chinese element

alexfromapex | 3 years ago

Does anyone else notice how slow the UI is to render in the demos or was that marketing effects?

mmgutz | 3 years ago

LibreOffice is not my go-to choice anymore for office suites on Linux.

FreeOffice from SoftMaker is my choice now.

29athrowaway | 3 years ago

I suppose it is a matter of approach.

But if you have a group with the design chops capable of producing this; then surely you can make so it doesn't look like a deliberate Apple copy?

Just look at the comments here in this thread; half of the reaction is about this is a rip off of Apple and legal this and that, ignoring what a massive contribution a well-designed tablet UI is.

throwaway4good | 3 years ago

Many comments are this post are saddening. Our racism is showing.

adultSwim | 3 years ago

The real danger is that if the code is open-source, I could fully see knockoff or counterfeit devices taking this project, replacing the icons with rips from iPadOS, and trying to sell it.

gjsman-1000 | 3 years ago

If just they would focus all this work in one desktop environment and its app instead of having yet another fork.

As awesome as this is, this is no contribution to the Linux Desktop.

oaiey | 3 years ago

This could look awesome on my Pixel C!

denysvitali | 3 years ago

why a distro? why not a desktop environment?

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alisaus2 | 3 years ago

This thread is full of shilling and what feels like bot posts in order to push this post to the top. Typical, sorry to say “chinglish” spelling mistakes give it away. It would be good if mods would look into this. Any way to trigger that action?

mahrain | 3 years ago

JingOS is a full-function Linux based on Ubuntu

Why on Ubuntu not Debian? If you forking something fork from more legit upstream distro. What are they including in Ubuntu that Debian doesn't have concerns me due to Ubuntu's track record.

0df8dkdf | 3 years ago