Mastercard will stop free trials from automatically billing once they're over

hbcondo714 | 716 points

Hurray! This is stupendous! I wish other CC brands follow the lead here in slaying this nefarious anti-pattern. There are so many services which require _you_ to actively go and cancel when all you wanted was to trial something, but they required you to commit a CC knowing there'd be a large percentage of people who forget to cancel.

Thank you MC for raising the bar for other CC brands.

mc32 | 5 years ago

I'm 100% in favor of this - if your business includes people paying you without realizing it, or making it difficult or costly to cancel, you shouldn't be in business.

However, won't merchants simply stop using free trials and go to a "$1 for 14 days" or similarly impulse-driven model? Sure the conversions compared to free will be tiny but impulse buying is a real thing and dumping someone into a $50/mo subscription after their $1 two week trial would still be complying with this new rule.

pc86 | 5 years ago

Link to original source:

https://newsroom.mastercard.com/2019/01/16/free-trials-witho...

HN Guidelines say: "Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

greenyoda | 5 years ago

VISA sent Netflix my new card details. I thought since my card was new and they didn't have the numbers and happened to lose my job at the same time thought I was safe and was just going to quit Netflix. Instead visa sends them the new numbers so I don't have a "disruption of service". Not cool visa.

14 | 5 years ago

This is a lovely consumer-empowering move. Every service should be cancellable without going through a Rentention Specialist.

I will plug a service I use (no other relation): privacy.com. It creates credit cards with pre-set spending limits, one-time or recurring. 1-800-hold-forever? No thanks, I'll just send the email and disengage the money hose.

Hopefully this sort of service becomes widespread, and services become less dependent on high-friction in cancellation.

millstone | 5 years ago

I welcome Mastercard's move at the issue. If you do give your c/c number for free trials then this is probably most useful.

Aside from that, I don't think I've ever given my c/c number for any "trial period" offer. I've mostly ever used the usage of that scheme as a red flag to steer away from the business before even considering signing up for anything.

This is not merely because I'm lazy and I don't want to even think about remembering to cancel but because I probably wouldn't want to use such a service at all. The shabbiest businesses are heavily infested with this sort of trickery, but even some good businesses have followed. It doesn't bring any value to the user except one more place where you c/c details can leak away, one more thing to remember and potentially an extra charge that will just upset you.

Trial periods can be implemented without a credit card if you really want to.

yason | 5 years ago

Unless I'm misreading it, the title of the HN link and the article's meaning don't match.

"Mastercard will stop free trials from automatically billing once they're over" is not the same as "merchants will be required to send the cardholder [a message] with explicit instructions on how to cancel a trial."

The former implies you can't do recurring payments where the initial payment was a non-capturing authorization. The latter implies, well, mastercard expects you to get an email from your vendor (e.g. your newspaper or whatever). I suppose said email could be as obtuse as "See website for subscription information".

inanutshellus | 5 years ago

The first paragraph suggests you'll need to explicitly aurhorise the first payment.

The third paragraph suggests you'll just receive cancellation instructions before the first payment.

The former would be a massive improvement. The latter is similar to what most (sadly, not all) companies do already.

Not sure which is the case. Anyone got a better source?

rahimnathwani | 5 years ago

I've just implemented and rolled out a trial-to-recurring feature for about 100 websites. I wish this post was more clear about how I need to update this feature to be compatible with this change.

> The rule change will require merchants to gain cardholder approval at the conclusion of the trial before they start billing

We get approval for the recurring charges at the start of the trial. Apparently this is now not enough for MC. This sentence makes it sound like the user will have to opt in at the end of the trial to get billed. But the next sentence is:

> To help cardholders with that decision, merchants will be required to send the cardholder – either by email or text – the transaction amount, payment date, merchant name along with explicit instructions on how to cancel a trial.

That sounds like we need to notify the user, but just to give them the opportunity to opt out, not requiring them to opt in. So which is it? Opt in or opt out at the end of the trial?

I'll have to make changes one way or the other, but do I need to just send out the notification and point them to the cancellation page, or do I need to notify them and send them to a go-ahead-and-start-charging-me page before we can start charging them? Can anyone parse this?

hirundo | 5 years ago

A separate issue, but still annoying nonetheless: Stripe has some forms where $x service costs for example $50.00 per year. After entering my CC credentials, it charges my card, but then when the following year arrives, the payment processor (Stripe) proceeds to then charge me for another year, and there is no way to cancel. It just assumes that my card will be hooked up forever (which is actually impossible since my CC will expire at a set year and set month).

This is why I am an advocate of disposable CC services like Privacy[1] that have a small window of time for the expiration and stops cards from being sneakily charged without your consent. When I am charged without consent it's like a dark pattern[2]

[1] https://privacy.com *

[2] https://darkpatterns.org/

* Note: Privacy.com is a U.S only service

octosphere | 5 years ago

I see these sort of free trials as subsidies for non-lazy people by lazy people. If you want to put in the effort -- you can get value, free of charge.

If merchants can't use that method any longer, I fear this will no longer be an option for people willing to put the work in.

Then again... I am definitely a lazy one.

liamcardenas | 5 years ago

I wonder why this hasn't been solved by some kind of a law which would apply to not only Mastercard a long time ago?

jeena | 5 years ago

Good to see the promise of free market competition at work, although it is happening within a duopoly bubble.

nell | 5 years ago

I'm going to switch to Mastercard for this single reason alone.

sdan | 5 years ago

For each payment thereafter, the merchant will have to send a receipt to the cardholder for each transaction by email or text message with clear instructions on how to cancel the service if the consumer so desires. In addition, all charges that appear on the cardholder’s statement must now include the merchant website URL or the phone number of the store where the cardholder made the purchase.

This looks like a significant change in policy. I wonder how merchants are supposed to know about it unless they happen to have read a source like HN today and found their way to the original MC article.

I also wonder what the consequences will be for non-compliance and what will happen if a situation is misunderstood by a payment service like PayPal or Stripe. For example, if we have a regular subscriber who is changing to a new card, we will typically use the payment service's "trial period" facility to delay the first charge on that new card until their regular renewal date so they don't get double-charged for the period in between. That's not a trial period in the normal sense of the term; to the customer, it just means they carry on paying exactly as they have but payments start coming from their new card instead. But there's not necessarily any way for a payment service to know that.

Silhouette | 5 years ago

That's a great service. I've been avoiding such free trials as a rule because I was concerned I'll forget to cancel or have to be subjected to a runaround when trying to do so. Of course, this may make some companies forgo free trials, as that was exactly what they counted on, but for me it would be net benefit as I'll be able to do trials with companies that really honestly want to show me their service and convince me to buy, without fear.

smsm42 | 5 years ago

I used to be guilty of this with FormAPI [1]. I heard that it was a good idea to collect the credit card information in the sign up form, and then charge the card automatically after the 7-day free trial. But then people would just forget about it and I would basically be stealing their money for a few months until they cancelled. I had to refund a few people who were angry about it.

I removed the credit card field from the sign-up form. I was also thinking that this might reduce friction, but I think it actually lowered my "conversion rate". (In quotes because it doesn't really count if you "convert" people who just forgot about it.)

Another way would be to keep the credit input on the sign up form, but require an explicit opt-in before I start the subscription. I don't know that would help. If someone actually needs the service then they're going to add a credit card. FormAPI isn't a "nice-to-have" service, it either solves your problem or it doesn't.

[1] https://formapi.io

nathan_f77 | 5 years ago

...and free trials stop accepting MasterCard, maybe?

GlenTheMachine | 5 years ago

Current HN headline does not match source headline.

HN: " Mastercard will stop free trials from automatically billing once they're over"

Source: "Free Trials Without The Hassle"

And the source posting provides no indication that Mastercard will actually stop any billing. But instead is requiring merchants to notify customers via email/text how to cancel and send a receipt on each re-bill.

pbreit | 5 years ago

Paypal has monthly subscriptions but you can cancel them from the PayPal site. It's a pretty nice feature.

maxxxxx | 5 years ago

> For each payment thereafter, the merchant will have to send a receipt to the cardholder for each transaction by email or text message with clear instructions on how to cancel the service if the consumer so desires.

Does this mean that for any service offering a free trial, every subsequent post-trial payment must come with an email or text receipt? What if it's a recurring service but it didn't have a free trial? Is the email/text receipt still required as part of Mastercard's rules?

If it only applies to free trials, it sounds like a lot of merchants will simply stop offering free trials.

I'm curious to see by which mechanism merchants are to "gain cardholder approval at the conclusion of the trial before they start billing".

brandon272 | 5 years ago

Cool service for consumers. From a business perspective, if you depend on subscriptions there are plenty of other payment methods that will likely work just fine for these recurring bills.

Somewhat snarky question: Do you think they will do this for their own annual fees?

sailfast | 5 years ago

This is a good step but it should be a law that applies industry wide. The dark pattern of offering free trials and only mentioning it will start a recurring billing after the trial ends in tiny letters somewhere in the fine print or buried in T&C is outrageous. It should be illegal to do this. If you offer a 14 day free trial, you should stop service after 14 days and then require explicit consent from customer to start recurring billing (you can send email to the customer before the trial ends asking them to give consent to start billing after it ends but it should not be automatic).

richardknop | 5 years ago

Get a prepaid credit card from walgreens/cvs/shiftcard, download the app, add instant transfer from bank account, then only use/add money to when needed for services that require credit card for trial.

ryansmccoy | 5 years ago

When I worked at one company where we had such scheme about 10% never cancelled and never used the service after a day or so. They were billed for years. I can't see this going away.

camerondoll | 5 years ago

nice. classic gym model is - get your routing and checking # , understand that you are likely never to use the gym after you forget your new years resolution, and then make it impossible to cancel. try signing up to planet fitness without having to give them a void check. canceling requires visiting the location from which you signed up from in person with a hand written letter. im glad there is budding competition in this space (banking). keeps companies like MastC in check

acosmism | 5 years ago

Nice. Next they should fix the yearly renewals. It's been couple of times where I'd subscribe for a service for a year, use it couple of months, then stop using it and forget about it.

Suddenly a year later they take $100 or whatever without any prior notice. An email like "You have an yearly subscription with us. We will charge you $100 again next week." should be a standard.

EastSmith | 5 years ago

So as a service operating a subscription model, what steps do I need to take now to accomodate this new payment flow? I am with Stripe.

I'm assuming the simple answer is to simply not accept credit cards for free trials but I don't know if my clients will like this answer.

darylteo | 5 years ago

Will this help in any way with gyms that are easy to sign up for, but impossible to leave?

brokenmachine | 5 years ago

They call it “free trials without the hassle” and I’m glad they are doing it, but I bet there will be many fewer companies willing to offer free trials if the opt out rate at the end of trials is high enough

dwighttk | 5 years ago

Whatever happened to the one-time-use numbers that cards like Discover would generate on demand?

Why wouldn’t that work for a trial-to-buy setup that’s programmed to fail once the trial is over?

joezydeco | 5 years ago

I can't recommend privacy.com enough for this very reason.

tmp092 | 5 years ago

This reminds me vaguely of when a provider automatically unsubscribes users from newsletters they don't read.

Does anyone remember which company this is? Twitch?

nchlswu | 5 years ago

A good step forward, although I wish they required explicit consent to continue. I.e., opt-in, not opt-out, for the renewal.

wdr1 | 5 years ago

Like the outcome, hate the process.

1) it should be an industry-wide, international norm

2) it should be an obligation on the card issuer, enforced. By financial regulation, worldwide.

I'm not a fan of industry self-regulation.

I'm not a fan of product differentiation by security model, in this space. Sure, there are different kinds of risk and mitigation, this feels like something which should be base-level norm.

ggm | 5 years ago

Hopefully other CC companies follow suit even though it hurts their own revenue prospects.

moneywoes | 5 years ago

Porn sites are gonna hate this.

wsc981 | 5 years ago

This will make many billing departments cry.

Another solution is to create a temporary virtual card.

jayalpha | 5 years ago

And ever forward we do march, the death of personal responsibility.

sandyhatches | 5 years ago

>Free Trials Without The Hassle

So all the free trials will become $0.01 instead.

iicc | 5 years ago

How will it be enforced?

cmelbye | 5 years ago
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| 5 years ago

Bad day for Bezos.

accnumnplus1 | 5 years ago

This won't even stop Amazon. If you forget to cancel your Prime subscription they'll try charging you by putting a hold on the money before it's time to pay. If that fails they'll try charging other cards and payment methods you might have registered.

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Hacker_Support | 5 years ago

Apps like Venmo and square cash have a “card” option you can turn on and off. I turn it on for a minute so the auth will work, then turn it back off.

draw_down | 5 years ago

they should get the Nobel Peace Prize for this.

arthurcolle | 5 years ago

Next they should require customer consent for recurring billing. That might be more legislative in nature though (fat chance...).

sp527 | 5 years ago

They're not doing this to help consumers.

They're doing this to save money processing complains and refunds.

miguelrochefort | 5 years ago

What if you make a service that wants to bill at the end of the term? How would Mastercard differentiate that from trial?

Also, apps like Uber, Bird, ... don't have payments until some time when you use them, how will Mastercard know it is a usage vs a trial/renew payment?

gregoriol | 5 years ago